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		<title>By: soybeanjean</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Vegetarian Society web site has lots of information to help out vegans. check out the fact sheet on b-12. I have put the link below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Vegetarian Society web site has lots of information to help out vegans. check out the fact sheet on b-12. I have put the link below.</p>
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		<title>By: Scocasso !</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scocasso !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want my sources? Man, that would be going back years and years man...

There are no stats on vegans and B12.  For stats, someone would have to do a study or keep track of such things -- currently, as far as I know, nobody has or does.

Okay...

B12 comes from bacteria.  Bacteria poo.
If your diet lacks in bacteria, you will also lack in B12.
Simple, yes?

You will find such bacteria, often called the &#039;good bacteria&#039;, in your intestines, mouth, on the surface of nearly everything, on the surface of fruits and veggies, in fermented foods such as real non-vinegar pickles etc., miso, natto, tempeh, or whatever.  Also in nutritional yeast, fortified foods, etc.

Just so you know, b12 deficiency it&#039;s not due to a vegetarian/vegan diet, as b12 deficiency is mainly found in meat eaters (very often elderly; overweight; eating a poor diet, and likely on various medications which cause malabsorption and killing of digestive flora etc.).

It could of course be due to a lack of consuming b12, but that usually means a very bad diet bordering on a complete lack thereof -- which usually lacks in many other things too.

Usually low b12 is due to things that hinder b12 absorption, or growth of digestive flora, or perhaps eating a diet high in processed foods, &#039;clean&#039; foods, unfortified foods, and not enough &#039;real&#039; food from the garden, etc. or fermented foods etc. Things like certain medications such as antibiotics are known to kill off one&#039;s digestive flora, a good source of b12. 

Anyway, obviously if it was due to specifically being vegetarian/vegans then all vegetarians/vegans (who do not take supplements such as myself - a vegan) would be seriously lacking b12.  I am not.  I know life long vegans from other countries who never took a vitamin or other supplement in their life simply because in other places in the world, a vegan diet is a complete and whole diet, lacking in nothing.  I have known many life long vegans from India over the years, for one example.

&gt; anemic 
anaemic?
well, of course not.
Anaemia is not caused by lack of B12.  Hm, you did no research of your own, did you?  Maybe you should find your own sources -- it&#039;s better to teach someone how to teach themselves than it is to just hand over the knowledge on a silver platter -- because that sort of knowledge is easily forgotten.
Anaemia has to do with red blood cells or hemoglobin -- or the lack thereof.  I&#039;m sure there are other factors that can affect the transportation of oxygen in the blood too, but these two things are usually what the medical industry uses to explain it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want my sources? Man, that would be going back years and years man&#8230;</p>
<p>There are no stats on vegans and B12.  For stats, someone would have to do a study or keep track of such things &#8212; currently, as far as I know, nobody has or does.</p>
<p>Okay&#8230;</p>
<p>B12 comes from bacteria.  Bacteria poo.<br />
If your diet lacks in bacteria, you will also lack in B12.<br />
Simple, yes?</p>
<p>You will find such bacteria, often called the &#8216;good bacteria&#8217;, in your intestines, mouth, on the surface of nearly everything, on the surface of fruits and veggies, in fermented foods such as real non-vinegar pickles etc., miso, natto, tempeh, or whatever.  Also in nutritional yeast, fortified foods, etc.</p>
<p>Just so you know, b12 deficiency it&#8217;s not due to a vegetarian/vegan diet, as b12 deficiency is mainly found in meat eaters (very often elderly; overweight; eating a poor diet, and likely on various medications which cause malabsorption and killing of digestive flora etc.).</p>
<p>It could of course be due to a lack of consuming b12, but that usually means a very bad diet bordering on a complete lack thereof &#8212; which usually lacks in many other things too.</p>
<p>Usually low b12 is due to things that hinder b12 absorption, or growth of digestive flora, or perhaps eating a diet high in processed foods, &#8216;clean&#8217; foods, unfortified foods, and not enough &#8216;real&#8217; food from the garden, etc. or fermented foods etc. Things like certain medications such as antibiotics are known to kill off one&#8217;s digestive flora, a good source of b12. </p>
<p>Anyway, obviously if it was due to specifically being vegetarian/vegans then all vegetarians/vegans (who do not take supplements such as myself &#8211; a vegan) would be seriously lacking b12.  I am not.  I know life long vegans from other countries who never took a vitamin or other supplement in their life simply because in other places in the world, a vegan diet is a complete and whole diet, lacking in nothing.  I have known many life long vegans from India over the years, for one example.</p>
<p>> anemic<br />
anaemic?<br />
well, of course not.<br />
Anaemia is not caused by lack of B12.  Hm, you did no research of your own, did you?  Maybe you should find your own sources &#8212; it&#8217;s better to teach someone how to teach themselves than it is to just hand over the knowledge on a silver platter &#8212; because that sort of knowledge is easily forgotten.<br />
Anaemia has to do with red blood cells or hemoglobin &#8212; or the lack thereof.  I&#8217;m sure there are other factors that can affect the transportation of oxygen in the blood too, but these two things are usually what the medical industry uses to explain it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 17:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vitamin B12 is easily obtained from synthetically made B12 that is sprayed on cereals or nutritional yeast, or even made into a pill. What you should be asking is if you have intrinsic factor being made in your stomach or not. It has been shown that loss of intrinsic factor by several factors (toxic buildup in the stomach, reflux disease, gastric by-pass surgery, even aging) causes loss of B12 absorption into the body.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vitamin B12 is easily obtained from synthetically made B12 that is sprayed on cereals or nutritional yeast, or even made into a pill. What you should be asking is if you have intrinsic factor being made in your stomach or not. It has been shown that loss of intrinsic factor by several factors (toxic buildup in the stomach, reflux disease, gastric by-pass surgery, even aging) causes loss of B12 absorption into the body.</p>
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		<title>By: Scarlett the Outlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scarlett the Outlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take vitamins that are specially made for vegans. They have a much higher dosage of vitamin B12 then most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take vitamins that are specially made for vegans. They have a much higher dosage of vitamin B12 then most.</p>
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		<title>By: Piscespets</title>
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		<dc:creator>Piscespets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take b12 vitamins and your cute :)</description>
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